Dan and James chat about James' new industry job, why he quit academia, the biggest differences between academia and industry, and why it's crucial for early career researchers to have a plan B. * James new industry job * James' [medium blog post](https://medium.com/@jamesheathers/i-quit-be062295f638) * Having a plan B (and plan C) in academia * Using consulting a bridge to a full-time industry job * How to get an industry job * The role of grant success in academia * More research is now open access than not * Get 20% off [our merch](https://teespring.com/en-GB/stores/everything-hertz-podcast) by using the promo code "AUGUST" * It's now easier to not be employed in academia but still _contribute_ to academia * The [NBA bubble](https://slate.com/culture/2020/07/nba-bubble-coronavirus-orlando-life.html) * The [Oura ring](https://ouraring.com/) * Differences in work/life balance between academia and industry **Other links** - [Dan on twitter](www.twitter.com/dsquintana) - [James on twitter](www.twitter.com/jamesheathers) - [Everything Hertz on twitter](www.twitter.com/hertzpodcast) - [Everything Hertz on Facebook](www.facebook.com/everythinghertzpodcast/) Music credits: [Lee Rosevere](freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/) --------------------------------- [Support us on Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/hertzpodcast) and get bonus stuff! - $1 a month or more: Monthly newsletter + Access to behind-the-scenes photos & video via the Patreon app + the the warm feeling you're supporting the show - $5 a month or more: All the stuff you get in the one dollar tier PLUS a bonus mini episode every month (extras + the bits we couldn't include in our regular episodes) --------------------------------- **Cite this episode** Quintana, D.S., Heathers, J.A.J. (Hosts). (2020, July 27) "112: Leaving academia", Everything Hertz [Audio podcast], DOI: 10.17605/OSF.IO/DAZ7S