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We chat about a recent blogpost from Dorothy Bishop, in which she proposes a Master course that will provide training in fraud detection—what should such a course specifically teach and where would these people work to apply their training? We also discuss whether open science is a cult that has trouble seeing outward. **Links** * The [blog post](https://deevybee.blogspot.com/2023/11/defence-against-dark-arts-proposal-for.html) on the Master in dark arts defence from Dorothy Bishop * The [blog post](https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2023/11/29/why-i-continue-to-support-the-science-reform-movement-despite-its-flaws/) on whether open science is a cult from Andrew Gelman **Other links** **Everything Hertz on social media** - [Dan on twitter](https://www.twitter.com/dsquintana) - [James on twitter](https://www.twitter.com/jamesheathers) - [Everything Hertz on twitter](https://www.twitter.com/hertzpodcast) - [Everything Hertz on Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/everythinghertzpodcast/) **[Support us on Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/hertzpodcast) and get bonus stuff!** - $1 per month: A 20% discount on Everything Hertz merchandise, access to the occasional bonus episode, and the the warm feeling you're supporting the show - $5 per month or more: All the stuff you get in the one dollar tier PLUS a bonus episode every month **Citation** Quintana, D.S., Heathers, J.A.J. (Hosts). (2023, December 7) "175: Defending against the scientific dark arts", Everything Hertz [Audio podcast], DOI: 10.17605/OSF.IO/K2J7N
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